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First TOSS for the season

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Hi all

I have just finished basketing all the birds for theire 1st toss of
the new season.
I am taking them 66km GPS measured from my loft, straight line.
I will let them go at sunrise and then the GAME is on.
Will let you know how it went.

Bezz
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Yep, can't wait for the update.
Yep, can't wait for the update.
Hi all

I took all the birds together, old and young, 116 in total.
They were liberated at 06:40.
I got back home at 07:30 and at 07:37 a pack of 31 landed, there after
they came in small groups and even 1s and 2s.
At 09:00 i counted 108 in the loft and fed them.
They are now 112.

I am happy with them and now they will stay on the road. :D

Bezz
Hi all

Ive just did stock taking, 2 stil out.

Bezz
BEZZ,do you allways train YB`s with OB`s ??? Here in the USA,that is not done...We take the YB`s out maybe 5 to 8 miles on their 1st toss ALONE....They have to use their OWN brains to get home,and NOT the OB`s brains.....I think they will become smarter when training by themselves...Just don`t take them to far on the 1st few tosses....5 to 8 miles is far enough...Gradually add 4 or 5 miles every couple of tosses...Only add more miles,if they are making good time from the last toss....Good Luck....Alamo
BEZZ,do you allways train YB`s with OB`s ??? Here in the USA,that is not done...We take the YB`s out maybe 5 to 8 miles on their 1st toss ALONE....They have to use their OWN brains to get home,and NOT the OB`s brains.....I think they will become smarter when training by themselves...Just don`t take them to far on the 1st few tosses....5 to 8 miles is far enough...Gradually add 4 or 5 miles every couple of tosses...Only add more miles,if they are making good time from the last toss....Good Luck....Alamo
Hi Alamo

No i dont usually train them together, this only happens in the old bird season.
When the babys are weened, they are trained on theire own, starting at 10km 1st toss, 15km 2nd toss, 25km 3rd toss and then i jump them to the 66km mark where i was today.
Of the 116 birds this morning 37 havent been tossed at all and had theire 1st toss.

If they can fly with the flock for more than 1hour at the loft, then they must be able to keep up with the old birds on the toss.

Some of the first birds back were from these 37 that got theire first toss today, i think 3 or 4 of them.

Some of the old birds even came in single.

I think it all depends on the quality of the bird itself if it will do the trick or not.
In pigeon racing there is no space for weakness.LOL(fancier or birds)

Bezz
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Hi all

Ive just did stock taking, 2 stil out.

Bezz
Bexx, Not a bad toss for a first. Send them again at the same spot and you will have better groupings next time.
Bexx, Not a bad toss for a first. Send them again at the same spot and you will have better groupings next time.
Thanks

I am planning to do so WEATHER permitting!

Bezz
That is a nice result. Hopefully you took notes who came home first. Those maybe are your fast ones. I like those singles as well. It tells me that they can be independent and can navigate/home alone. I like that in a bird--a leader or can be a leader and not a follower.
Hi all

I took my birds again to the 66km mark this morning.
1hour2mins a pack of 81 dropped together, 50 birds more than yesterday.
09:00 when i fed them they were 98 in the loft, 10 les than yesterday.
There are still 7 out as i type this thread.

Regards

Bezz
Hi all

Today was the 4th and final day of my tossing schedule from the 66km mark.
On Friday i started with 116 birds, 111 completed the test and only 5 failed.

Bezz
That is a good return anytime by our standards. Is that as far as you toss or do you push them out farther?
Ken
5 failed out of 116....I think you're on the right track! I hope you do well this race season!
That is a good return anytime by our standards. Is that as far as you toss or do you push them out farther?
Ken

Hi

Thanks.

They will go up to 180km before the 1st race which starts at 250km.

Bezz
5 failed out of 116....I think you're on the right track! I hope you do well this race season!
Hi

Thanks, and i surely hope that you are right!

Bezz
Well the new season is almost apon us here in Australia we start on the 16th May so it was time to give the birds a couple of tosses this weekend 152 birds in all 3 two year olds the rest youngens I dont like two year old so after each season I give any left away there more trouble than there worth. The birds were tossed yesterday and today both from 45km they came split both times but all home so a good weekends work done by them.
I train all my young birds with their first toss (Fairly close to home) with the old birds. When I say young birds, I mean this years hatchlings. An old bird to me are last year and older birds.
Why don't you fly young and old together?
Why don't you keep two year old birds? Is there a disinct disadvantage or is it a personal preferance?
Just curious.
My youngens here in Australia are breed between October 1 and December 31 I have 40 pair of stock birds so getting a couple of pair from each in that time is easy. The youngens are free lofted every day and chased off the loft by 10 weeks they get no easy life here. A lot of flyers here keep and only race two year olds so they are carring pigeons for 12 months with out doing anything with them. Two year olds are ok to sprint up to 200miles as they can be cut back on feed to get them to race after 200miles these pigeons cannot match youngens when racing and when it gets tough the old pigeons dont show not to mention all the money races are for young birds why then put time into pigeons that may win a club race yet cannot compete in the specials its simple logic. I have won our Raffle Ring Race three years in a row taking all the money last year with my first 3 birds timed also being the best 3 birds in the club I have won the club averages 3 times in the lsat 6 years and the long averages 4 times in that time last season I had the long averages won after 4 races in the long series. This all goes back to racing only youngens once there educated they race better than old pigeons.
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