Help with breed id...
Here is the photo of a few in their old loft several months ago. They have very tight body feathers, and just a little fluffier around the neck (mostly males do)The cock who is farthest from front, is at least 17yrs old. (I'm sure you can tell he is older) I will add some more if that would help too.
Well here is my id problem. I have had these pigeons for 17yrs plus. I thought they were Turkish tumblers. I don't think that is what they are. They spin sideways.....I don't know if that is normal or odd. They have done this since the day I brought them home. I have looked all over the internet and cannot find any good info on this type of performance. They do not fly very high, about a single story house high. They clap their wings very loudly even when flying from one perch to another or down to eat or water. They are mostly a large size with big long wings. They wings are about the length of their long tails when at rest. Most are in the ash bar color, with various dilutes and recessives from those base colors. Even though a large size (to me anyhow) they are adept at shaking loose a pursuing hawk by maneuvers through the local tree canopy. I rather like how they do not fly too high. Flying higher only brings them to the attention of the year round hawks. (I leave that to my neighbor and his King pigeons). They are calm for the most part very healthy birds. (I still have 3 of the original pairs. So these 6 are 17+ yrs old. All were adults when I bought them.) I will send some photos here as soon as I take them today.
Any help would be a relief.
Here is the photo of a few in their old loft several months ago. They have very tight body feathers, and just a little fluffier around the neck (mostly males do)The cock who is farthest from front, is at least 17yrs old. (I'm sure you can tell he is older) I will add some more if that would help too.
Well here is my id problem. I have had these pigeons for 17yrs plus. I thought they were Turkish tumblers. I don't think that is what they are. They spin sideways.....I don't know if that is normal or odd. They have done this since the day I brought them home. I have looked all over the internet and cannot find any good info on this type of performance. They do not fly very high, about a single story house high. They clap their wings very loudly even when flying from one perch to another or down to eat or water. They are mostly a large size with big long wings. They wings are about the length of their long tails when at rest. Most are in the ash bar color, with various dilutes and recessives from those base colors. Even though a large size (to me anyhow) they are adept at shaking loose a pursuing hawk by maneuvers through the local tree canopy. I rather like how they do not fly too high. Flying higher only brings them to the attention of the year round hawks. (I leave that to my neighbor and his King pigeons). They are calm for the most part very healthy birds. (I still have 3 of the original pairs. So these 6 are 17+ yrs old. All were adults when I bought them.) I will send some photos here as soon as I take them today.
Any help would be a relief.