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I have two sons and a daughter of this pigeon, but cant make out the pedigree??
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Help Me Read this Ped
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A 99 and two 05s
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Hope one of our members from accross the pond can help. That looks nothing like any of my Fabry peds.
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it's a 1990 Fabry bird and looks like the parents are both blue bar an 87 cock and 88 hen.
Not likely from this pigeon then. This is a 1990 bird. Would be too old to produce a '99 and '05 offsprings. Maybe grandchildren.
Ped doesn't have much info other than band number and year, and breeder names. I can't read it though.
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the 99 is for sure direct. you are right, the 05s are g. children
I see now one was a '99. I kept thinking 2009.
Wow! Direct Fabrys?
It means you have one it had when 9 yrs old and two when it was 15 yrs old? When was Fabry around?
I tried to decipher this pedigree in Belgian French and here is what I was able to make out:
The head (sire) side of the ped: Father: "Blue 1000804/87" from
1/ "Young Fury" x "Chequer 465". Young Fury (Jeune Furie) is from "Furie" x illegible, looks like "Bourgesker" to me (winner? from Bourges).
2/ "Chequer 465" is from Illegible (Petras or Tetras?) x probably "Sproete". T/Petras is from "Orleans" x "Margaret". Sproete is from "Yzeren" x something that looks like "Toke" or "Tohe".
The tail (dam) side of the pedigree: Mother: "Blue Cheq 1025251/88" from
3/ "Standard" x "Blue 103". Standard is from "Fangio" (he was a race car driver and the bird was probably a big winner) x "Mother of the St Vincent" (St Vincent was probably a Cock).
4/ Blue hen 103 is from "Giscard" x "Lisette".
I'm not able to read what's under the bird's ring number, maybe it is Étincelé which would mean Sparkling.
Of course I could be wrong where illegible, then it's anybody's guess. Maybe a Fabry specialist can help you.
On top there's a note in English which says that the two birds have been transferred to [email protected]
Hope this helps,
JPS
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Thanks. Im very curious about this fabry bloodline. I cant seem to find too much about them. From what I understand, there isnt very much info out there
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My oldest ped but I dont think it will help.
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WOW!!! Thanks so much! Very cool. I have some more documentation I will post to see what you think. awesome!
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Why do you doubt? I've managed to buy Youngsters from Cocks that were 18 yrs old and I personnally got babies from 2 hens 11 and 12 yrs old, eggs floated under foster parents. Of course all these YBs were just lightly trained (about 120km) and kept in the breeding loft paired with proven racers. The old birds used to fly out for exercise daily til they were retired in an aviary. Not to worry, blood will talk!
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My bird was from Bob Brumagin and a member of PT "I don't remember who" is friends with him and may still have original ped from Fabry, plus he had 3 more birds from Fabry. Some thing may help.
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The first one you posted looks cool to me, about the others it's difficult to say. One has to see the diplomas won by the birds in the pedigree. Fabry's Sproete, Yjzeren and Fangio are all too well known champs and the stamp in the right hand top corner is your proof of authenticity. Otherwise, I don't give much credit to a sheet that is not signed at least by the breeder.
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