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Want to know if you have info. Thanks.
Just a little FYI here. This is technically illeagal in most, if not all states in the country. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen all the time, but it is gambling and can be prosecuted.
Participate at your own risk.
Dan
No actually, I can say for a certainty that regardless of how things play out, I will not be pooling. It is a personal choice for me. I have nothing against others doing as they see fit. It is just not something I will be engaging in. I only posted the above as a source of information that people may not realize. I am all for personal choice. I just would hate for someone to be hauled of to court for something they had no idea might get them in trouble.Pool all the way through baby!!! So you guys are saying if all goes well before the "main race" in the winners cup that you 2 won't pool?"if there is pooling" How many birds in that race? 500? Anyone can win.
If you think pooling is a no no,don`t do it...At our club,we have a 3 bird for $5 pool,and a $1 pick red pool....Not exactly what I call gambling...What about the IF and AU Convention races..Does anyone here send birds ??? Isn`t this BIG time gambling ?? The 2009 IF race has 1240+ entries @ $125.00 each..That`s what I call gambling..Not a $5 pool or a $1 pool as our club does....
What about ALL those ONE LOFT races you send your birds to ?? Gambling ??
You betcha life it is !!!!!!.................Alamo
Not to stir the pot here, but there is a big difference between entering the AU or IF races, or for that matter any one loft or futurity event, and pooling. Paying an entry fee to participate is in no way gambling on who will win. These are two very different things. We pay to participate in a lot of things. Soccer, baseball, basketball, etc, etc leagues for our kids require entry fees to participate. We are not, however, gambling on who wins the games.If you think pooling is a no no,don`t do it...At our club,we have a 3 bird for $5 pool,and a $1 pick red pool....Not exactly what I call gambling...What about the IF and AU Convention races..Does anyone here send birds ??? Isn`t this BIG time gambling ?? The 2009 IF race has 1240+ entries @ $125.00 each..That`s what I call gambling..Not a $5 pool or a $1 pool as our club does....
What about ALL those ONE LOFT races you send your birds to ?? Gambling ??
You betcha life it is !!!!!!.................Alamo
Yep I agree !Not to stir the pot here, but there is a big difference between entering the AU or IF races, or for that matter any one loft or futurity event, and pooling. Paying an entry fee to participate is in no way gambling on who will win. These are two very different things. We pay to participate in a lot of things. Soccer, baseball, basketball, etc, etc leagues for our kids require entry fees to participate. We are not, however, gambling on who wins the games.
Let's not confuse the issue here. There is a difference between entry fees and pooling.
Dan
You are confusing emotion with the law. I am not saying that anything you have stated above doesn't happen. It always has and probably always will. However, that doesn't make it legal. Paying an entry fee to participate in an event is not gambling in the eyes of the law. Winning prize money for said event is not gambling in the eyes of the law. Filling out a pool sheet and laying your money down saying a certain bird is going to win is gambling in the eyes of the law.So, I guess you want me to beleive that NOBODY who enters their birds, in the AU or IF Conventions, wagers on their bird the day of shipping ??? I have a video of the Snowbird shipping,and they had pooling that would make James Paul Getty look like a pauper..And at one time,he was the richest man in the USA....I jave entered my two pigeons in this years IF race for one reason,just as all the other Lofts have..TO WIN MONEY...I am gambling that my pigeons will beat the other 1250+ entries...And you tell me that`s not gambling ??? You can`t compare horse racing with pigeon racing...Probally 95% or more of the lofts who race pigeons are doing it as a hobby....So that`s what makes it gambling when you enter a money race...In horse racing,95% of the owners are racing horses for a living,and that`s why the entry fee`s are not considered wagering...Think about it for a minute.....Alamo
As a side note to this particular post. In Georgia, raffles are considered gambling but you can apply for a permit through the Sheriff's office. We did this when the high school band I was the director of raffled off a Harley Davidson Fatboy as a fundraiser. We had specific guidelines we had to follow but it was legal and legit. By the way, the permit itself was free. Great fundraiser by the way. We made over $8000 for the band and the winner of the Harley was a recently divorced single mom who had three kids and only bought one ticket the night before the raffle closed. She immediately sold it for $17,000 cash!All the races should discontinue these pools and calcutta's if they are illegal. It puts people at risk.
A family friend who owns a local bar got fined during the superbowl. You know those squares we all play at the office, well, he had one going in the bar and got popped by an undercover.
At the high school football games, we have a 50/50 raffle...50% of the collected money goes to the winning ticket holder, 50% goes to wherever it goes to. This is gambling.
I think paying an "entry fee" to a college in the hope that the kid will get an education which will make a difference is a "gamble" also.....So that`s what makes it gambling when you enter a money race...In horse racing,95% of the owners are racing horses for a living,and that`s why the entry fee`s are not considered wagering...Think about it for a minute.....Alamo