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I was looking at the old bird fly for this past weekend for my local club an I caught this
CARL & Fra 1842 AU 08 POLK BB H 11:49:38 162.289 20.39 1362.518 CARL & France 762 AU 07 POLK BB C 11:49:39 2/ 20 20.40 1362.410 CARL & France 1540 AU 05 POLK BB C 11:49:39 3/ 20 20.40 1362.410 CARL & France 968 AU 04 POLK BB C 11:49:40 4/ 20 20.41 1362.302 CARL & France 1807 AU 08 POLK BB C 11:49:40 5/ 20 20.41 1362.302 CARL & France 1644 AU 07 POLK BBWF C 11:49:41 6/ 20 20.42 1362.193 0194


I dont fly old bird and I wanted to make sure that im not seeing something
How do you clock 6 birds that fast with a manual clock?
Smells fishy to me
 

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Tipplerbeni,

It's possible, back when we used mechanical clocks, my wife took the counter marks from a group of birds that came in together. She clocked those 7 birds in 3 seconds! This was when the rule was that each countermark had to be in its own clocking hole. Now that the rules have changed that require only the first bird countermark to be clocked in a seperate hole, and subsequent holes may contain more than 1 countermark. If a fancier had already pulled the countermarks from a group of birds and then clocked them all one after another with possible multiples per clocking hole it would be very easy to do. If the club uses Winspeed to figure the races then multiple hole clockings are awarded to birds by alph-numeric sequence. It may not have been the order that the countermarks were pulled, but that's the chance you take when you put multiples in one clocking hole. This rule was adopted for people with mechanical clocks competing against people with electronic scanning clocks to have a better chance of clocking birds faster when the come home in one drop. Hope this helps!

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Tipplerbeni,

It's possible, back when we used mechanical clocks, my wife took the counter marks from a group of birds that came in together. She clocked those 7 birds in 3 seconds! This was when the rule was that each countermark had to be in its own clocking hole. Now that the rules have changed that require only the first bird countermark to be clocked in a seperate hole, and subsequent holes may contain more than 1 countermark. If a fancier had already pulled the countermarks from a group of birds and then clocked them all one after another with possible multiples per clocking hole it would be very easy to do. If the club uses Winspeed to figure the races then multiple hole clockings are awarded to birds by alph-numeric sequence. It may not have been the order that the countermarks were pulled, but that's the chance you take when you put multiples in one clocking hole. This rule was adopted for people with mechanical clocks competing against people with electronic scanning clocks to have a better chance of clocking birds faster when the come home in one drop. Hope this helps!

Ralph
sounds very logic.......
 

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I still find it kind of hard but if its possible than its possible I guess. I still find it hard to believe but im not racing against him yet so I will not make any comments to the club if the people that are racing against him dont say anything
 

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I was looking at the old bird fly for this past weekend for my local club an I caught this
CARL & Fra 1842 AU 08 POLK BB H 11:49:38 162.289 20.39 1362.518 CARL & France 762 AU 07 POLK BB C 11:49:39 2/ 20 20.40 1362.410 CARL & France 1540 AU 05 POLK BB C 11:49:39 3/ 20 20.40 1362.410 CARL & France 968 AU 04 POLK BB C 11:49:40 4/ 20 20.41 1362.302 CARL & France 1807 AU 08 POLK BB C 11:49:40 5/ 20 20.41 1362.302 CARL & France 1644 AU 07 POLK BBWF C 11:49:41 6/ 20 20.42 1362.193 0194


I dont fly old bird and I wanted to make sure that im not seeing something
How do you clock 6 birds that fast with a manual clock?
Smells fishy to me
Under our Combine's rules, that would not be possible, as the UPC requires a double knock on every countermark. So even if one pulled all the countermarks off first, it would not be possible to arrive at those times. Apparently, this Combine has different rules.
 

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How can i find the rules for the combines?
Well, you won't find a universal list anywhere that I know of. But, your Combines own rules, should be in documents called Rules and By Laws...and such. Contact your Combine race secretary, he should have an electronic copy you can down load and read. We have lawyers in our Combine, so we follow such things very carefully. ;)
 
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