Thank you for the advice, I appreciate any help. I let this years birds out again this evening around 5pm, most returned fine or with little trouble (May need more trap training or a different style of trap. Two birds sat on the roof of the coop until an hour before sunset 8:30pm, took off for a flight and never returned. It is frustrating because I know they are likely dead with owls on the area.Hi, you have to train them in the AM not an hour be for sunset are these birds gonna race in a pigeon club? can you take the birds for a training toss on your way to work if not maybe you can get up a little earlier and at least fly them so they can keep in shape