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This maybe an old retread thread, but I thought I should bring it up again. In the previous year and this year as well, I've have put my breeders together on Thanksgiving weekend. And by the first of January, I have youngsters ready to be banded. However, I learned (yes, I didn't learn the first year) that it's extremely difficult to train young birds properly. The weather is still too cold and the snow covers much of the ground so the birds, when up in the air, can get confused. The five week learning period that is crucial to the development of the young bird's homing ability is hindered by the fact that the window for training is unstable. Every day is basically hit or miss. And the longer you wait, the more mature the young bird becomes and sometimes, you have fly aways. I had my first fly away yesterday. And this has forced me to rethink when I should put my breeders together. Just a thought I'd like to share with the rest of you.