Not a good way to start the day...

Sorry to hear about the babies. How cold is it there at night? How old were these two? I had a pair of Satinettes that did the same thing to me. I packed them up and sent them to one of our members here at PT. I was able to save Scooter, but his sibling froze to death. I HATE that...........

It gets very cold here at night. It was in the 30's last night. They were 10 days old.

yeah thats cold sorry to hear about your babys i had two die 3 weeks ago

Yeah it sucks because this is the second time they've this. They are great with sitting and hatching but when it comes to caring for the babies they fail. The first set died at 7 days. I really wanted to get a pair of youngsters from them but I can't let them do this again. I'll have to pair them up with different birds.

g0ldenb0y55 said:

Yeah it sucks because this is the second time they've this. They are great with sitting and hatching but when it comes to caring for the babies they fail. The first set died at 7 days. I really wanted to get a pair of youngsters from them but I can't let them do this again. I'll have to pair them up with different birds.

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Why not try fostering them out to another pair if you REALLY want babies off of them.

I'm so sorry to hear that, Henry. I expect that may be what happened to our last lost soul, too. So sad (to us humans) but there must be a natural reason for it.

Lovebirds said:

Why not try fostering them out to another pair if you REALLY want babies off of them.

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I might try that Renee., thanks.

wolfwood said:

I'm so sorry to hear that, Henry. I expect that may be what happened to our last lost soul, too. So sad (to us humans) but there must be a natural reason for it.

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Yeah...it just sucks because they were already banded and my littles gave them names already.

I SWEAR that naming-thing IS the kiss of death!!! We changed the survivor's name to "Typhoon" after we lost his nestmate .... and they had only gotten their names a few days earlier. Especially sad for your little ones 'cuz they can't understand the Circle of Life ... yet. Innocence is good!!

My oldest is 3 and a half but she's as sharp as a tack. My youngest just turned 2 and I think I can get away with not mentioning it to her but I'll have to find a way to explain it to her older sister. She's out there with the birds with me all the time.

Maybe that the baby was needed more somewhere else .... ??? Good luck.

So sorry about your loss. Yeah, the temperature change at night in the desert can be dramatic!

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Maybe that the baby was needed more somewhere else .... ??? Good luck.

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The wife and I have talked to her about God and heaven so "being in a better place with God" will do it I'm sure. Plus having the 2 new dragoon babies will soften the blow!

Terri - Thanks for the kind words....what's tough is that this is the second time this has happened with this pair of breeders.

Oh--- I'm sorry Henry. Thats a big bummer...

Thanks Jenn....Just have to move on....

Henry,

Since you have had this happen twice with this pair, I would begin to suspect something like paratyphoid. I just found a peeper dead in the nest at three days. The second egg did not hatch and when I checked it, the embryo had died at about ten days. It was not cold. Actually it was unseasonably warm.

When I hit the books, both the Flying Vet and another I have, dead in the shell young and nestlings dying at ten days and earlier are suspicious of samonella. I've separated the parent birds from the loft and am giving them the preferred treatment for this. Will let them lay a round, sit it on wooden eggs, then let them breed the round after that.

Margaret

The babies were dead cold both times so I don't have any reason to think that it was salmonella. But I won't count it out! I've decided to separate the pair and have them lay a clutch of eggs with a different bird. We'll see how that goes. If have issues with the 2 new pairings then I'll look in to it further.

Henry, i think you are right to break up the Pair, some pairs just do not work together. Fostering would just be breeding for poor Breeders. Dave

Henry,

Sorry to hear the news. I mentioned in another post in General Section where an opossum tried to get inside my loft scaring my breeder hen and she abandoned the baby that night that doesn't have feathers yet and I thought by tomorrow the baby is gone. Thank the weather was actually warm and balmy that the baby survived. It was probably wrong timing for your birds. Did they get scared of something?