penciled parents with white babies?

Are you sure they are pencils?

RodSD said:

I am breeding two homozygous pencil parents and somehow the baby looks like pure white. What happened to the pencil gene?

The parents are the white ones with black faces:

The baby:

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When they were young, did they show the bronze pencil markings that moulted away? I suppose you could have very light pencil birds that would eventually produce an all white. White tends to increase in birds that show alot of white and all white birds can be bred from a number of combinations. This one would just be another possiblity. If you are certain that the parents are **** pencil, the white youngster should be as well. I'd test it with a more colorful pencil to see what happens.

Bill

I got those parents as adults. Their parents look like them. Their brothers, sisters, cousins all look like those above. I call them black face birds so I am curious about this baby. I am looking at the head and looking for some black colors on it. I think I'll wait till I see some feathering on the head and will let you know.

I don't think this is pencil

RodSD said:

I got those parents as adults. Their parents look like them. Their brothers, sisters, cousins all look like those above. I call them black face birds so I am curious about this baby. I am looking at the head and looking for some black colors on it. I think I'll wait till I see some feathering on the head and will let you know.

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I would expect to see some bronze penciling even on a bird with a white head, if it is pencil.

I'm leaning toward a lack of the pencil gene in this pair but am not certain. Sometimes I just lean and then fall over.

Does either of this pair show the bronzy look in the color on their heads?

Bill

those pics made my neck hurt

Ston3d,

Me, too! My bad! Sometimes I put my camera on certain angle to get a shot.

Bill,

I'll see if I can find a bigger picture.

I remember them now

Well, they must both be pencil to have those young. Interesting to get a solid white. Eventually, I would mate that white to a pencil to see what happens.

Bill