[KIPPY]

does anyone know if rosemary or lemon verbena, lemon balm are toxic to pigeons?
mosquitos, i would like to keep them away from the pigeon cage. i heard that rosemary is a good bug repellant and read that mosquitos do not like the smell of lemon and spearmint.
i want to put some plants along the outside of the cage to see if it works. the rosemary plant is pretty strong smelling.

 

[dano7]

This is the list of poisonous plants. If this is the defense for mosquitoes, you might vaccinate for Pox.

Amaryllis
Andromeda japonica
Apple seeds
Apricot pit
Asparagus fern
Autumn crocus
Avocado (fruit and pit)
Azalea
Baby doll ti
Baby's breath
Bird of paradise
Bittersweet
Branching ivy
Buckeye
Buddhist pine
Caladium
Calla lily
Castor bean
Ceriman
Cherry (wilting leaves and seeds)
China doll
Chinese evergreen
Christmas cactus
Christmas rose
Chrysanthemum
Cineraria
Clematis
Cordatum
Corn Plant (all dracaena species)
Crown vetch
Cyclamen
Daffodil
Daisy
Daylily
Devil's ivy
Dieffenbachia (I.e. dumb cane)
Dracaena palm
Dragon tree
Elephant ears
Emerald feather
English ivy
Fiddle-leaf fig
Flamingo plant
Foxglove
Fruit salad plant
Geranium
German ivy
Glacier ivy
Gladiola
Glory lily
Hawaiian ti
Heavenly bamboo
Hibiscus
Holly
Hurricane plant
Hyacinth
Hydrangea
Impatiens
Indian laurel
Indian rubber plant
Iris
Japanese yew
Jerusalem cherry
Kalanchoe
Lilium species
Lily of the valley
Marble queen
Marijuana
Mexican breadfruit
Miniature croton (and other var.)
Mistletoe
Morning glory
Mother in law's tongue
Narcissus
Needlepoint ivy
Nephthytis
Nightshade (solanum species)
Norfolk pine
Oleander
Onion
Peace lily
Peach (wilting leaves and pit)
Pencil cactus
Philodendron (all varieties)
Plum (wilting leaves and pit)
Plumosa fern
Poinsettia fern
Pothos (all varieties)
Precatory bean
Primula
Privet
Rhododendron
Ribbon plant
Sago palm
Schefflera
Sweet pea
String of pearls/beads
Taro wine
Tomato plant (green fruit, stem,leaves)
Tulip
Weeping fig
Yesterday, today, tomorrow plant
Yucca

Originally posted by KIPPY:
does anyone know if rosemary or lemon verbena, lemon balm are toxic to pigeons?
mosquitos, i would like to keep them away from the pigeon cage. i heard that rosemary is a good bug repellant and read that mosquitos do not like the smell of lemon and spearmint.
i want to put some plants along the outside of the cage to see if it works. the rosemary plant is pretty strong smelling.

 

[maryco]

Hello,

I read that black seed is a very good insect repellance.

I have the oil and the seed, both have a strange strong smell so I'm pretty confident that it will work in nests..etc.

I'm going to attach the original post below.
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Hello all,

I'd like to share something with you all that might be helpful to
yourselves, your pets and of course pigeons as well

I've been searching the net for quite awhile about a certain kind of
seed called "black seed" also called black cumin, Habbatul Baraka,
black caraway, fennel aower or charnuska (Many other names as well)
I believe it's scientific name is Nigella sativa.

It looks kind of like a little black seed (not shiny) used in many
countries for quite awhile, and we've had it around ever since I
could remember, We take it every morning either ground up or whole on
a spoon of honey. We believe strongly that this seed is very good for
everything and is a great way to boost the immune system to fight all
kinds of diseases.

I thought this herb must have some effect on animals as well and I
wanted to see if it was good for pigeons to take as it might be
helpful to fight against diseases or boost the immune system. I
could not find anything on the net though.

Yesterday I was at my grandma's house and my grandpa ordered a large
box from a website called http://www.amazingherbs.com
the box was full of differnt things that had to do with black seed, a
cream for myself(I have psoriasis) and my cousin who has eczema as
well as alot of boxes of tea, some capsuls that contained the black
seed oil and other honey/black seed mixes, they also sent a free book
about the black seed (It's on the website front page) and my grandpa
told my mom to take it home to read and so I just picked it up afew
minutes ago and was looking through it, I wanted to see if there was
a section about pets and as I turned a page it was right there, first
horses then when I turned the page again it said "Birds" I was so
happy so I read through and right at the top it listed Carrier
pigeons, this means that it must have some benefit.

I will type out the little paragraph and now that I know it's not
toxic I will try introducing it to my birds as it says in the book
and see what happens...


Birds
Smaller birds, such as pet birds or carrier pigeons, may benefit from
Black Seed mixed directly with their normal seed mixture. For
everyday health, start with a very small dose and slowly increase
Black Seed to about 5% of the complete mix.
Tp address the current ailment, Black Seed may comprise as much as
10% of the toral food intake. For larger birds, Such as chickens and
game fowl. Black Seed may be mixed with drinking water in proportions
as large as 5% to fight bronchitis and other respiratory problems,
Interestingly, a recent German study revealed that a daily intake of
Black Seed in healthy chickens showed not only a 7% increase in body
weight, but increased fertility and higher percentage of usable eggs
as well.

It goes on to talk about dogs and cats and before this horses.

This seed is really great for both humans and animals, the book goes
through so many diseases and problems and shows how black seed could
benefit, if you suffer from anything it might be a good idea to try
it, you have nothing to lose and you never know

 

[Skyeking]

Household Toxins And Foods

http://www.internationaldovesociety.com/birdproofing.htm


http://www.multiscope.com/hotspot/caffeine.htm

This is also in the "pet birds" forum, but I think it belongs here also, and I want to to focus on the following excerpt:

"Caffeine, chocolate, alcohol, coffee, and cocoa contain theobromine, which is very toxic to birds. Do not give these to your birds and do not leave them out where they can get to them"

People may use coffee as a remedy to stop bleeding on themselves, but it cannot be used on birds/pigeons for such purposes as it will go into their blood stream.


Bleach fumes, are among the list of household hazards for birds.

 

[feralpigeon]

Here's another link that cites coffee and interestingly enough, potatoes, though not the root. This site also includes a list of plants that are safe for birds as well:

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=15&cat=1912&articleid=2236

fp

 

[Maggie-NC]

I want to add one thing to this list: holly berries

Dano did mention holly under her list of poisonous plants but I wanted to specifically mention the holly berries. I know birds eat these in the wild but if a captive bird is fed these, they may die. The problem is, we don't know the quantity that would be poisonous to them so it is best to just not feed them.

This information is from a vet and the poison control center in Atlanta because years ago we fed an evening grosbeak too many and he got sick and died.

 

[feralpigeon]

OMG, I was going over the link posted below and I did just notice that
Blue-green algae (Microcystis aeruginosa)-all parts-is listed there. The specific
toxins are Anatoxin A. mycrocystin, and the symptoms are-Inability to swim
or fly, abnormal posture, frequent defecation, and respiratory arrest. This is listed in this link:

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=15&cat=1912&articleid=2236

Hope this information will prove helpful for members.

fp

 

[Skyeking]

Hi fp,

There are certain "greens drinks" that have blue green algae in them.
While these drinks excell in human use, and most ingredients would not harm our birds, the BLUE GREEN ALGAE will.

I advise everyone to read ingredients on any greens drinks they may want to use for their birds, and please make sure the blue green algae isn't on the list of ingredients. If it is, don't use on birds.

Thank you.

 

[Skyeking]

10 Foods Poisonous to Pets & Some Poisonous Plants

Not sure if you all have seen this, it was in my e-mail box this morning, so i thought I'd share it.....



10 Foods Poisonous to Pets

Grapes and raisins
These can be toxic to dogs and cause kidney failure when ingested in large amounts. Researchers say there are still many unknowns about the toxicity of grapes and raisins, including whether only certain types of dogs are affected, but it is advised not to feed grapes or raisins to dogs in any amount.

Avocado
While many pet owners say they feed their pets avocados with no problems, studies have shown that their leaves, fruit, seeds and bark can contain a toxin called Persin. According to the ASPCA, the Guatemalan variety, which is commonly found in stores, contains the most toxicity.

Yeast dough
Dough that is not cooked and contains yeast can rise in your pet’s stomach, causing pain, and can potentially cause the intestines to rupture. This risk diminishes once the dough is cooked.

Onions, onion powder, chives and garlic
These all can lead to gastrointestinal irritation and red blood cell damage. All forms of onion can cause problems including dehydrated onions, raw and cooked onions. Cats are more susceptible than dogs, but it can be toxic to both.

Foods with a high salt or fat content
Excessive fats can cause upset stomach and potentially inflame the pancreas causing pancreatitis. Salty foods can pose a risk for the development of sodium ion toxicosis, according to the ASPCA. Be aware that if your pet gets into food with a high fat or salt content, she could experience stomach problems including diarrhea and vomiting.

Left-over Bones
Left-over bones pose a choking hazard to pets, and they can also splinter and puncture your pet’s gut or intestine. Additionally, do not feed your pet undercooked meat or eggs, as they can contain harmful bacteria.

Sugarless Candies (products sweetened with xylitol)
This compound can cause liver damage and even death in some more vulnerable dogs. Xylitol is in many products including gum, candy, sugar-free cookies and toothpaste.

Macadamia Nuts
These nuts can cause weakness, vomiting, tremors and hyperthermia in dogs. Symptoms generally last up to two days, and usually appear within 12 hours of ingestion.

Alcohol, Chocolate, Coffee
According to the ASPCA, the substances in chocolate, coffee, and caffeine, methlxanthines, can cause vomiting, diarrhea, panting, excessive thirst and urination, hyperactivity, tremors, seizures, and potentially death in pets. The higher the cocoa percentage, the more dangerous the chocolate is, making dark chocolate more toxic than milk or white chocolate. All these products can cause vomiting, diarrhea and even death.

17 Most common poisonous plants
1. Lilies
2. Marijuana
3. Sago Palm
4. Tulip/Narcissus bulbs
5. Azalea/Rhododendron
6. Oleander
7. Castor Bean
8. Cyclamen
9. Kalanchoe
10. Yew
11. Amaryllis
12. Autumn Crocus
13. Chrysanthemum
14. English Ivy
15. Peace Lily (AKA Mauna Loa Peace Lily)
16. Pothos
17. Schefflera

What do you do if your pet ate something poisonous?
If your animal is having seizures or losing consciousness, bring him or her to your veterinarian or emergency vet center.
If your pet is not showing symptoms, but ingested something potentially toxic, call the ASPCA hotline at (888) 426-4435. Have the following information available: the species, breed, age, sex, weight, and information about the product exposure. It is best to have the package of the product available for reference.