please help asap!!!

bot31 said:

hello peeps i have a pair that was sittin on eggs since the 24th of march so its been a lil over 18 days,i also have another pair that just had their babies 2 days ago.my 1st pair stopped sittin on the eggs for a day now atlease everytime i look,they havent been on it.now my thing is...
can i take those eggs and put them under the pair that just had babies?
will it hatch,even if its been a couple a days overdue?
lastly,if it hatched,will they be able to take care of 4 babies?since their babies are only a couple a days old?ive really been waiting on these pair to have babies..hope you guys can help..thanks in advance..GOD BLESS...

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Perhaps the eggs are not fertile, did you ever candle the eggs? The parents may also sense that the eggs are not viable anymore or never were.

The new parents, have their own babies to raise, and 2 more would be too much for them. You would have to hand rear two of them.

Trees Gray said:

Perhaps the eggs are not fertile, did you ever candle the eggs? The parents may also sense that the eggs are not viable anymore or never were.

The new parents, have their own babies to raise, and 2 more would be too much for them. You would have to hand rear two of them.

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thanks for your reply trees..i never candled the eggs.is it too late?so youre sayin its still ok to put the eggs under the other pair?
oh one of the egg has a hole in it.looks like it came from inside,,not really sure..

I wouldn't burden the already exsisting parents.

Is it just a hole, or is the shell bubbling up as it cracks and is the hole progressing in size?

the hole is not a crack or cracking but its bigger now than earlier..the color is sorta darker white like so..
i also seen the parents trying to mate again,will i expect another incident like this one or should it be better?

One great way to test eggs for life is to place them in 105F water.
Only do this with eggs that have not pipped (started to open).
Eggs with living chicks will rock in the water as the chick kicks to signal it's parents that it is too warm. They want to be 99.5F.
The extra heat also often stimulates the chick into pipping.
Only do this with eggs that are past due.
This is especially usefull when hatching eggs in an incubator.
Keith

Great tip Keith! That's going in my book of knowledge!

Bot - I would leave the eggs alone if you think a chick is pipping in that egg. The parents could be just taking a break from sitting.

The Eggs are WAY over Due... sorry they are no Good... Dave

I would agree with Dave, the eggs are no good. Usually a parent will stay with the eggs, once they have decided to sit, until it hatches, but even they know when to give up and try again. I would let the eggs sit for about 21 days, at most, then get rid of them.
I do not like to put extra eggs/babies under other parents. It really causes stress on the parents and could cause them to abandon their own young. If you do succeed in foster parenting new birds, it seems the entire nest of birds become underweight and they take longer to develop. Of course, this is just my own observation.

i just wanna thank all you's advices and comments..i guess ill have to let this go and try again,just hope it goes right next time,,again thank you's..

the pair that had the unfertile egg should be ready to lay again very soon
about 4 days after they are laid you can candle the eggs
I just use a small palm sized flashlight to candle them
if they are good you will see a buncha spider veins
if they are infertile it will clear
I also give my breeders a bit of hemp seeds in the feed
I read it helps stimulate breeding
has worked great for me but dont give them tooo much
or they might get consitpated

I think I had babies that hatched around 20 days. Did you check your calendar right? The day they start incubating is the day for me to time them, not when they lay the eggs. But when they start incubating their first egg right away I expect that the other egg will hatched 2 days later after the first egg hatched. I actually prefer that they lay both eggs first before they start incubating. That way you have babies born at the same day. I think if my eggs don't hatched a maximum of 22 days, then probably it is not fertile. I honestly noticed that my birds will try to incubate non-fertile egg 18-19 days + 1 week! Then they will abandon it.