Probiotics vs Garlic

Bezz said:

Hi all

As i understand it Garlic destroys bacteria.
My question is wouldnt it even destroy the good bacteria from PROBIOTICS?

Bezz

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There are better experts on this site then me. But, I believe you are correct. Which would mean that you would give your birds these things on different days and not at the same time.

Bezz said:

Hi all

As i understand it Garlic destroys bacteria.
My question is wouldnt it even destroy the good bacteria from PROBIOTICS?

Bezz

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I prefer to give the probiotics on seperate days, as was recommended by a well known avian vet, even though it seems counterproductive... garlic doesn't necessarily destroy good gut bacteria, I just don't like mixing two additives to the water-one at a time suits my birds, and perhaps the birds wouldn't go for it.

There is no vs-as to which one to use, however-they should both be used as both are extremely important and have different benefits.


Garlic destroys bacteria and builds immunties, and is a natural antibiotic, it also is a wonderful parasite deterrent and is very beneficial for feathering. Probiotics enables multiplication of good gut bacteria, and apple cider vinegar creates the perfect environment that enables good bacteria to thrive and multiply.

Trees Gray said:

I prefer to give the probiotics on seperate days, as was recommended by a well known avian vet,, I just don't like mixing two additives to the water
There is no vs-as to which one to use, however-they should both be used as both are extremely important and have different benefits.


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Hi Trees

I even dont give it together,but say you give it on alternative days:
1:Mon-Thu you give Pro-Bios.
2:Fri you give Garlic.

What was the reason then for giving them Pro....
only to cansel it again with the Garlic?

Bezz

I would cancel out the probiotics and stick with the garlic and ACV. IMHO

Trees Gray said:

I prefer to give the probiotics on seperate days, as was recommended by a well known avian vet, even though it seems counterproductive...* garlic doesn't necessarily destroy good gut bacteria, I just don't like mixing two additives to the water-one at a time suits my birds, and perhaps the birds wouldn't go for it.

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Bezz said:

Hi Trees
*What was the reason then for giving them Pro....
only to cansel it again with the Garlic?
Bezz

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* Sorry to confuse you, read my post again. It doesn't destroy the good bacteria, it is a natural herb and doesn't work like a man made antibiotic....I just give it on different days as I have always done. I give two days of garlic, usually on the weekend. then during the week they get ACV in the water.

g0ldenb0y55 said:

I would cancel out the probiotics and stick with the garlic and ACV. IMHO

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Probiotics are different from ACV. The birds need them both at times.
Probiotics enables multiplication of good gut bacteria, and apple cider vinegar creates the perfect environment that enables good bacteria to thrive and multiply. The gut bacteria is your birds first line of defense against bacterial invasion. The more there are, the better.

Today I gave ACV,GARLIC,AND AMINO's Tomarrow and the day after they will get probiotics.I do this every other week unless I see something that strikes me as being wrong GEORGE

I give ACV the day after garlic and do both twice a week.

If my memory serves me, garlic only stimulates the immune system, and my memory is not that bad yet... I do not throw anything at my birds unless it is garlic for performers, or Vit/min mix on the seed made sticky by wheat germ oil, or cod liver oil, I never give anything but the above, unless the birds are stressed , or are going to preform in a race, ect. Their Kidneys, liver ect. have to process all the crap we throw at them.
To MUCH nutrition, is as bad as to little! JMVHO Dave

LUCKYT said:

If my memory serves me, garlic only stimulates the immune system, and my memory is not that bad yet... I do not throw anything at my birds unless it is garlic for performers, or Vit/min mix on the seed made sticky by wheat germ oil, or cod liver oil, I never give anything but the above, unless the birds are stressed , or are going to preform in a race, ect. Their Kidneys, liver ect. have to process all the crap we throw at them.
To MUCH nutrition, is as bad as to little! JMVHO Dave

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Absolutely, the best nutrition to give them would be organic, from organic sources as there is no build up if given correctly. You don't have to worry about overdosing, and always follow strict dosage on man made vitamins.

If your birds do not have access to sun it is good to them a little cod liver oil once a month, as well as wheat germ oil. You can give them a little brewers yeast over the seed for energy and to overcome stress, as it is loaded with B vitamins. Be sure to follow with probiotcs.

Do you guys boil this garlic? Or just break it up and give it straight? Also is it necessary to give probiotic to the birds? I wanted to try probiotic but i wasnt so sure. Thanxz.

[MN]eXist^_^ said:

Do you guys boil this garlic? Or just break it up and give it straight? Also is it necessary to give probiotic to the birds? I wanted to try probiotic but i wasnt so sure. Thanxz.

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A raw clove of garlic cut up and put in a gallon of water.

It is good maintenance to add probiotics once in awhile ( twice a month) especially after medicating, and I use it if the poop looks a bit runny, and when rehabbing sick birds.