You can fool me with many questions ; actors in movies , history , most math questions nowadays (lol) , but not about my pigeons . I look at my list daily at night . Thier band #'s , body frame , intelligence & try to figure who is right for who . So don't bother trying , I am constantly studying them , like most of you , lol . BBCdon I have a Zeppelin bird , a beautiful cock bird . He was the one that I got with the head tilt . That's why I didn't mention him . He is 100% now but I don't know what would happen to him if stressed . I didn't breed from him this year but last year I got a nice cock from him . If I pair him up I will let you know .