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I fear I might have posted this way too late but I thought this was still worthy of discussion.
About a week ago i found a poor pigeon frozen stuck to a snowbank. I thought he was dead. I chiselled him out with hopes of saving him. His right side was paralyzed, I believe due to being hit by a car and left for dead. I warmed him up and tried to get him to eat and then force fed him pellets, warm peas, metacam and water. Slowly he started to respond although he would flip onto his back. I took him to the vet and she said he had severe spinal injury and a broken jaw.Everytime I tried to feed him I was injuring him more. But just before I took him to the vet after I cleaned him up (he would lay in his own poop) and coaxed him by holding and positioning him nibbled a little seed and drank from a small cup. I felt a ray of hope.
Sadly, the vet said he had no hope with a fractured spine and broken jaw. They strongly urged me to put him to sleep.
I feel sick over this thinking did I do the right thing?
At the time I felt this was the humane thing to do but, I need thoughts and imput.
I know it is too late to do anything about this now but I find injured birds and pigoens all the time. Some make it through my care and some just pass away away on their own regardless of my efforts.
I guess I wasn't expecting the vet to" put him down". I thought there was hope.
 

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Ok I had a macaw that a friend owned that had a pelvic spinal injury from a dogs mouth. It recoverd fine, about two weeks after it was able to stand and walk and go home, but took a bit longer to be 100%, so I believe the spine would have healed as well as the jaw. I had to inject antiboitics into breast, crop needle for food and do some physio witht he bird. Bones heal, vets are jerks, they dont give a crap, and animals adapt REALLY well. The fact that it drank some on its own and nibble a few seeds was a good sign. Now, you may have had to feed it a bit with some peas as u were doing but even if it was able to swallow some seeds on its own, there are ways to allow it extra nutrition via water and supplements, so I say the vet was an a$$ and premature. Wish you had posted here first before going to vet. Now that said, you realize that most likely that bird would not be able to fly again. Was it able to move its feet at all as in not paralysed. The bird I was rehabbing was paralized for a good week but came around perfectly, that would would never know it was injured including flying.

I have learned from avian vets AND books that xrays of birds broken bones are VERY hard to read as they have hollow bones. So unless it was EXTREMELY obvious, like a bone shard cut in half, the spine may have only been dislocated, as was the case with the macaw, and when I took it to an animal chiropractor all paid for by owner, this bird made a complete recovery as stated above. So I am skeptical if a regular vet had a clue. I have vet medical books that show skeletal xrays. You need to be a specialist to know. So dont feel bad, you just got the guy who didnt really care to do or encourage anything. If the bird was laying flat, not moving, not eating, not drinking, and obviously on its way out, then I would agree with vet to put down, short of that I would have kept trying.

Sorry for this loss and info, but PLEASE in future contact people on here who care much more than a doctor who is just doing his job. This post is not meant to upset u, but undoubledly will, but you did ask our/my opinion and I want to be completely honest even for others on this site who may find themselves in the same position, PLEASE contact me as I have had extensive experience with just this type of injury, rehab, chiropractor, xray, physio and recovery. I really hope this helps shed some light. Thanks for doing your best for this bird. ALWAYS seek a second opinion. Thank you.


I hope this post does not upset any members, that is not my intention. I will delete if requested.
 

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Thank you for your quick response. I wished I had the insight to have posted prior to the vet visit to get your imput.Again the reason for the vet visit is was that I had a glimmer of hope.
The poor pigeon. :(
 

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I appreciate you helping this very needy bird and doing all you could for him. What you did made a world of difference, as you rescued and gave the bird warmth and comfort, which is most important.

If the vet did not do all that could have been done for the bird, that is not your fault.

The bird is not suffering and in peace, thank you for that.
 

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I don't get this thing with euthanasia. Most people who practice it in fact help themselves, not the animal, by that that euthanasing the animal they are spared of the time and effort they would put in keeping the animalm alive. Then, when deciding to kill him / her, they lie themxelves and others that are doing it for animal's own good.
 

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Thank you for your quick response. I wished I had the insight to have posted prior to the vet visit to get your imput.Again the reason for the vet visit is was that I had a glimmer of hope.
The poor pigeon. :(
As skyking said you did your absolute best. We cant know all or do all, we try out best. I agree with what AndreiS said as well, vets and rehabs dont put any value on pigeons. I see all creatures as having the right to be here.

I try my best and have been screwed over by vets in the past with other animals. Friends have as well, lots of stories.

We all learn from others I wish the vets would reaccess the value and opinons of these birds.
 

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Even if an animal (or human) suffers and is no cure, death is not a solution. Life is more than avoiding the pain. But I think always is a cure, we just have to seek more.

Many animals and humans are killed by despair. If you believe that something bad happened to you, that is a strong negative mental energy that draws you into a complex of negative thoughts which are the real sickness. You have to BELIEVE that your sickness is only an appearance and will pass. I nerver took a drug in the last 18 years and I have an astronaut's health.

Same for ageing. Ageing is not a biological but psychological, avoidable phenomenon. If you control your mind you can avoid it.
 

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Even if an animal (or human) suffers and is no cure, death is not a solution. Life is more than avoiding the pain. But I think always is a cure, we just have to seek more.

Many animals and humans are killed by despair. If you believe that something bad happened to you, that is a strong negative mental energy that draws you into a complex of negative thoughts which are the real sickness. You have to BELIEVE that your sickness is only an appearance and will pass. I nerver took a drug in the last 18 years and I have an astronaut's health.

Same for ageing. Ageing is not a biological but psychological, avoidable phenomenon. If you control your mind you can avoid it.
I beg to differ. I believe in humane euthenasia if something or someone is beyond repair and in pain and cannot get out of pain and there is no hope. The rest of what you said, no comment.
 

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thanks gain for your kind words. Over 3.5 years ago I had found a squawb ina gutter missing her upper beak. Long story short with the help of a well known avian surgeon (she is retired now) i still have that pigoen. She is the most affectionate creature with a huge personality. i do have to clean her mouth and nose twice a day forever but that has never been an issue. She eats good and poops perfect. happy and relatively happy.
This was a success story
 

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Wow that is awesome and a testament to how the birds adapt and recover and Im sure a vet would have said to put her down too. You showed them otherwise didnt you :) Can we see a pic of her, what color is she?
 

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Here is a photo of craow Dum. I did have help from one of the top avian vets to care for her. Sadly this vet had retired.
I've had this pigeon for over 3.5 years now and she is still doing great. I just have to make sure her food dish is filled to the top and I have to clean her nose/mouth of debris twice a day.
Sad to say, you are right that not many people regard pigeons with much respect.This little pigeon is the love of my life.
 

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