Some people just can't be trusted. I had just sold Brian Lord/Timberlofts a pair of breeders with the complete understanding that the only way I would sell him this pair was if he would breed me one pair of young for 2010. He now has the cock for sale on an online auction. I have tried to call him but he will not take my calls. Now his voice mail says " You have reached Timberlofts". I guess he wants to become some kind of dishonest feather merchant. No matter what this guy tells you to get your birds you should be prepaired to see them on an online auction.