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Hi everyone !

Yesterday, I found a sick feral pigeon on a street close to my home, he was just there on the sidewalk, he could not move and looked super tired and poop everywhere!
There are a lot of stray cats in the area so i decided to take him. I took him to the first vet who told me that she could not do anything and that he will probably die soon. She told me to make him as comfortable as possible and try to feed him water.
It was already late so i took him home and put in in a carton box and made holes in it so the air would come inside. tried to give him water thinking that in the morning he would have probably died.

Please bear in mind that feral pigeon are like a pest here in Thailand people do not really want to get close to them. People looked surprised at the vet when we came in with this hurt feral pigeon.

When i woke up i looked over and he was still breathing so i figured i should take him to another vet, a specialist in birds or something. I also named him Peter the Pigeon. :D

The new vet took a sample of his poop and inside his throat and then he came back and told us he had coccidia,
He said that he cannot promise that Peter will recover but we can try to give him antibiotic and tube feeding him.

Anyway, i have never ever cared for a bird before, i am kinda scared of birds.
So i have to tube feed him in like one hour (i have my husband to help but he is not that brave) and i am kinda scared i am gonna screw it up and hurt him or even worse kill him.

Please any tips on how to tube feed a pigeon will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you so much.

**attached is a picture of Peter**
 

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Did the vet tell you how to tube feed him?
When we tube fed our injured chicken, we used lube(KY jelly) on the tube so it would go down the throat easily. We felt the crop while feeding to make sure we didn't over feed.
You have to make sure it goes down the correct throat, if you go to his airway, he dies. So instead of going straight down from the front of his beak, you go crossways(diagonally) allowing the tube to go down the side.
Alternatively, the people here feed their pigeons defrosted peas, which someone else can tell you about as I haven't done it before.
 

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Hi, thanks for your reply.
The vet did show me how to do it, it seemed so easy when i looked at him doing. But when i was at home trying to do it myself i panicked ! i didn't want to hurt him or kill him. had a breakdown and cried for 5 minutes then got over it and did as the vet told me : slide the tube on his right side, feel the tube coming down in the crop then push the food in.
I finally did it ! in my 30 years of existence i tube fed a bird for the first time :eek:
It was not easy but i managed to feed him.
 

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Hi, thanks for your reply.
The vet did show me how to do it, it seemed so easy when i looked at him doing. But when i was at home trying to do it myself i panicked ! i didn't want to hurt him or kill him. had a breakdown and cried for 5 minutes then got over it and did as the vet told me : slide the tube on his right side, feel the tube coming down in the crop then push the food in.
I finally did it ! in my 30 years of existence i tube fed a bird for the first time :eek:
It was not easy but i managed to feed him.
Congratulations! It is a tough thing to do the first time.
I remember when I had to give an antibiotic shot for the first time, I had cold sweats and had to sit down afterward because I almost fainted. The animal was fine though and recovered beautifully.
Just do as the vet tells you each time, by the book and you'll do fine. :D
 

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Always make sure the tube is in the crop first, by feeling for it. Also, put it in slowly. If you over feed, or push the food in too quickly, it will come back up and he can aspirate. Just go slow.
 

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Thank you everyone for the messages. I really try to do my best with tube feeding Peter, i definitely do not want to hurt him. The whole process of tube feeding still freaks me out a little :eek:

Today is day two, Peter is still alive. He looks better than when i found him on the sidewalk two days ago. He still cannot move though.

I have another question regarding cleaning his poop.
He's been pooping a lot and when i found him he got like wet poop with dried poop on his behind and on his feet. it's like almost everywhere on his behind.
I would like to clean it up.
Any suggestions ? Should i clean is behind with water and cotton ball? saline solution and cotton ball ?

Thanks a lot, i really appreciate the help, Peter is thanking too !

**attached is Peter chilling in his crate**
 

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He doesn't look good at all. Either very sick or injured. Can you find any wounds on him?
He's just a young bird too. If sick he may need medication.
 

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Hi, thank you for your message.

According to the vet he has coccidia. The vet told me to give him 2 types of liquid antibiotics two times a day (morning & evening) and tube feed him a recovery formula to mix with water. I am feeding him liquid tube food 3 times a day (8h00, 13h00 and 18h00)
I haven't found any wounds or bleeding on him, but yet again he looks so fragile and i am so scared to hurt him or stress him. He is very weak, the only part he can move is his head. He poops a lot, color is watery dark green.
He is also missing some feathers on his head.
I also saw something crawling on his feathers i tried to remove it but it was way faster then me and disappeared under his feathers. i tried looking for it but couldn't find it. i saw it twice today and tried to find it but his feathers are so thick.

The vet did tell me that he might not make it, he might suddenly die of his sickness.
I have hope and i pray that he will get better. I still think that it was meant to be that my mother and i found him while walking to the hairdresser, right place and right time. God sent him to us on that day so we could take care of him.

Thank you for all the messages. I have never had to care for a bird before in my life. I am so relieved that i can talk and seek advice from people who have knowledge about pigeons.
 

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Have you looked way down his throat with a flashlight to see if there is anything cheesy looking down there? He could have canker. What tests did the vet do to come to his conclusion of cocci? The dark green droppings could also mean that he isn't getting enough to eat.
 

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Hi,

The vet took sample of his poop and inside his throat to test under microscope and then showed me on the screen what cocci cells looked like, "a boiled egg that you cut in half".

As for the fly, i am pretty positive it looked like a pigeon fly. They move so quick!! Is the pigeon malaria contagious to the human ? :confused:
Any tips on how to search for them ? where to start ?

Poor Peter, he has so many problems, bless his little soul, he is still a fighter.

I saw some small improvement this morning, he is more alert with his head but still cannot move.

Please find attached the picture of Peter this morning & his poop.

Thank you again for all your help !
 

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Does he keep his feet tucked up under him, or do they go straight back? He could need calcium and D3.

You can wash his feet and bottom with a warm wet rag.
How much is he getting in each feeding?
 

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Hello,

I'm not sure about his feet. he keeps them tucked up there but once i carry him they come down. i tried putting my finger in between his fingers to see if he would have reaction or maybe grab my finger with his feet, but i didn't get any reaction so far. I don't think he can move them yet.


Regarding his feeding, the vet told me :
- tube feed him the recovery formula 4 times a day in big syringe. He told me not to exceed 15 ML each feeding.
- feed liquid antibiotics (pink 0.13 & yellow 0.17 ML) in small syringe, morning and evening.
- feed the transparent capsule (booster or some kind) in small syringe once every morning then put him in early morning sun for 30 minutes, apparently it will make him happy.

Today i will try to find those pigeon flies in his feather and get rid of them.
 

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Hi everyone !

My husband and i desperately tried to find those pigeon flies in his feather but we failed, they were too fast. We spotted two of them but once i tried to pick them they disappeared in a blink ! i cannot believe how fast they are !:eek:

Please let me know if this is life threatening for him. I have an appointment with the vet next Thursday for his checkup, maybe the vet and his assistants can remove them flies. Can the flies situation wait or i should go back to the vet before the appointment ?

Peter is now slightly improving, he looks a little bit more alive now, his neck seems slightly stronger but he still cannot move or eat by himself. He can drink by himself, i put water in a bottle cap and he just puts his beak in it and drinks.

Thank you
 

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I will ask the vet to do that on Thursday. I really want to get rid of these things on him, i feel so sorry for him. Please let me know if i should buy any of these products for his flies (attachment pics). I only found these two products can be sent to Thailand from Amazon.

Do you think Peter should have some kind of bath? or birds to not bathe? or is it too soon because he is sick?

Thanks.
 

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I would get the Anti Mite Extra.
Can you offer him water in something a bit deeper than a bottle cap? That would make it easier for him to drink enough.
 

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updates on Peter

Hi !

Took Peter to the vet today because of the pigeon flies and other parasites.
The vet was impressed that Peter was getting stronger in such a short time :)
He did put some product on the back of Peter's neck for the parasites, and said they will die soon. The vet also instructed us to feed him antibiotics for another 2 weeks. And tube feed him until he is ready to eat by himself.
Please let me know how will i know that he is ready to eat by himself

The vet also gave us sad news that because of the cocci, Peter will never walk or fly again. He said the cocci damaged Peter's nervous system and affected the legs and wings :(
But i see Peter move his wings but the legs look like they are gone, but sometimes i can feel him pushing me with his legs when i pick him up so i still have hope that one day this bird will be able to fly.

Please see attached pictures of him today (at the vet getting his behind cleaned at at home in his crate
 

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Thank you so much for rescueing Peter! He is starting to look much better than in the first few photo's. You can leave a small bowl of seeds in front of him, when he is feeling better he will start eating by himself.
 
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