train 45 miles in 11 day?

Pixy said:

Is it possible to train my homers to fly up to 45 miles in 11 days? These birds havent been out of the left yet. They will need to learn how to get back into the loft through the bobbed door. But, is this possible. Given that the weather permits..They have been on Wins More for about a week now.

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IMHO, no.............not if they haven't even been out of the loft. Why the rush? You might have one or two that MIGHT make it.......but it's doubtful as far as I'm concerned and I think you know that too, or you wouldn't even have asked.

Yea, it has been a while it's been a while since ive trained birds because all the other ones got eaten by hawks... so theyve been in for a long time and the youngsters havent gotten out... Thanks!.. I was going to do a dove release for a lady that far away from me. I wanted to make sure that i wasnt going to lose any birds. Thanks!

You will for sure have some losses if you push them that hard in that amount of time. 45 miles isn't that far but these birds haven't even been out of the loft yet let alone not knowing how to trap yet. I would not try it personally but that doesn't mean it's not possible. In any case keep us updated if you do decide to take a pass at it.

Hey pixy I see ya have helets do you let them fly or do you just have them for show if ya do how do ya train them just like ya would any other bird keep them cooped up and have an avery or what thanks Kevin

If the birds haven't been out yet, it will probably take about 2-3 months before they start ranging. Then you can start tossing. I don't know if it can be done in 11 days. For example, 1 mile toss, then 5 miles, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45 miles with 1 day rest in between might take 19 days. So it depends what is your starting point and your increment miles.

Pixy said:

Is it possible to train my homers to fly up to 45 miles in 11 days? These birds havent been out of the left yet. They will need to learn how to get back into the loft through the bobbed door. But, is this possible. Given that the weather permits..They have been on Wins More for about a week now.

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In theory, the answer to your question is yes. However, the odds are you will lose most, if not all of them. Why are you in a rush ? What is the big deal about a 11 day time table ? They should be flying around the loft for weeks before they have their first training toss. Suggest you first settle the birds, and loft fly them for a month or more, before trying any such "training". Also suggest you read Training thread. Also why are you giving "Wins More" for a whole week ?

http://www.pigeons.biz/forums/f14/training-young-birds-for-homing-amp-racing-pigeons-8046.html

it would be doggy be you could give it ago if you do it know

I tossed my yb's 2 weeks after I let them out of the loft for the first time at 5 miles and had no losses. I knew it was pushing it but these particular yb's seemed to be a little bit ahead of the curve because they were ranging for 1-2 hours after only a week and half from being let out for the first time.

g0ldenb0y55 said:

I tossed my yb's 2 weeks after I let them out of the loft for the first time at 5 miles and had no losses. I knew it was pushing it but these particular yb's seemed to be a little bit ahead of the curve because they were ranging for 1-2 hours after only a week and half from being let out for the first time.

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GB,
I have had my birds for alomost a year now, and they still don't range!..so I have taken the road training slow with them....but I think that is the difference between just homers (like mine) and racing stock.... your birds sound like good ones to me...

pixy, if you have just release whites for weddings, then you need to take it slow or you may lose alot of them...and I would not go more than 45 miles with white homers. JMO

g0ldenb0y55 said:

I tossed my yb's 2 weeks after I let them out of the loft for the first time at 5 miles and had no losses. I knew it was pushing it but these particular yb's seemed to be a little bit ahead of the curve because they were ranging for 1-2 hours after only a week and half from being let out for the first time.

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You may have great, exceptional birds, or you may have been just lucky up to this point. IMHO, I would not get over confident, whenever I have taken a few short cuts, and still got great results, I would pat myself on the back, and think I just had such super birds, or my management was just so darn good, and then Bamb !!! out of nowhere, my "little" short cuts, cost me and my poor birds plenty. If the races are not untill late August or Sept, what is your big rush ? Do you think starting road training a few weeks early will give you an edge ? You may end up fine....I'm just remindered of my 1st grade teacher, and her constant reminder that "Haste makes Waste"..and in our game, that normally means some dead birds along a road somewhere. Just a thought......

Good point Warren. Until they are VERY comfortable around the Loft, and are Pumped to fly on there own it is Risky Business, been there done that. Dave

I think the clue when they are ready to toss is when they start ranging/tripping. If let us say that they indeed ranged for 1 hour and are flying about 40 mph, then they could have traveled 40 miles total or perhaps 20 miles each theoretical way. The worse obviously is when you realized that your birds actually landed, perched on some roof or light post and stayed there for the whole 1 hour. That bird is not ready for toss.