no but your birds are the best one of the ones i got from you are 3rd in club and ajmes have you had a blue bar hen 07 band back so got out on friday
it was there 10th toss i started at i mile and worked my way up to 30 i had not lost one intill the second 30 miles toss this is what i was wonder can you lose that many at one time?How far was your training toss? Is this your first toss?
I started my birds out from across the highway, less than a mile from home, then I went one mile, then three, etc... Not all birds that do not make are bad homers, some are lost to hawks and probably other things.
I always like to start with my young birds. I take them out and put them on a platform in the yard an will let them stay there for a few hours. (As soon as they are feathered and able to eat by themselves, they go to the platform.) I have food and water on the platform for them and I think this helps with them getting used to me handling them, they also get to see the lay of the land and when they feel up to it, they can fly back to the loft.
So I guess they actually get their first training toss at only a few yards from home. I have not had homers in years and trying to remember everything I was taught is tough. I wonder if anyone else does this also?
nice to now about the 3rd in club and no i have not seen that blue bar hen but will look out for itno but your birds are the best one of the ones i got from you are 3rd in club and ajmes have you had a blue bar hen 07 band back so got out on friday
These are OLD BIRDS?it was there 10th toss i started at i mile and worked my way up to 30 i had not lost one intill the second 30 miles toss this is what i was wonder can you lose that many at one time?
yep going four years been training at 30 miles 2 time but they have been flying free all there life and were born hereThese are OLD BIRDS?
Must be something in the air............if you read my post about the race yesterday, you know what I mean. Just chatting with another guy who let his birds out yesterday and a couple of them just took off and haven't returned. Birds that had been flying for a couple of years. Doesn't make any sense at all to me..............
thanks for the replySorry for your losses.... Some times it only takes a Low pressure front, or a high pressure front to Really mess them up. My worst toss was one from work, only about 6 miles... AFTER they had been out two sixty three or four times, that year. Let them out as normal about 1/2 mile from work, got out of the car at work and i KNEW i had screwed up! I could feel the temp had dropped way down and my ears were popping. As far as i am concerned, i would rather have them fly in rain than when the air Pressure changes rapidly.
These were old birds, never Raced but had been out over 3 or 4 years to about 250 miles out all those years in all directions except east.
Before i even thought about racing all i wanted was "always get home Homers" and that is what that team was.I think, JMHO, Sometimes they hit a wall of sudden air pressure change and refuse to fly though it and in trying to go around it end up in another state, or country for that matter and burn out.
Of the 30 i released that day i only got i think it was about 4 back.... over a period of about a week.Remember, these Birds were trained to HOME not to race my whole training was that they just get Home, and they had done that for years without fail, EVEN in rain storms. I believe it is Air Pressure changes are your worst enemy.THEN there are what i call dead zones, remember before i raced my whole Sport was training, i had one area about 15 miles from home a Quarry with high voltage lines and LOTS of Sat towers.This spot was in the direct route on the flight home from the West, When they were Young i would follow them home as best i could, and they would hang up at that spot most every time, circle and go off course around it once they had hit it a time or two. as old Birds when i tossed from the west, they did not slow down but veered off right before it, retook their line of Flight and continued home. i had watched this Behavior almost daily back then. And when i started Racing/training young birds i tried at first to take them north or south hoping to keep that area out of line until they had more training...JMHO Dave
trust me i checked all that and done it like loft fly for a few weeksThere could be a health issue....Pigeons that are not healthy will not home well...Also,if the K-Factor(Sun Spot) activity is high,that could hamper returns...Also pigeons not in good condition,will not home well...You just can`t take pigeons,out of your loft,after being locked up all winter, and take them 30 miles for a toss...They need to loft fly for a few weeks to get in some kind of flying shape,before you start training down the road...I don`t know what you have done with the birds the last month or so...Maybe you can fill us in about what the birds have been doing the last 30 days....Alamo
Depends on what you mean by the term "normal".yesterday went and took 30 obs 30 miles only got 7 back is this normal these my mates as well
yes 10 times this year they must of done it over 200 times lolWait, did you say these birds were 4 years old and have only been tossed 10 times? Or did you mean only 10 times this year?