Hi BECKY, In the book "ENCYCLOPEDIA OF PIGEON BREEDS" by W.M.LEVI on pages75 -86 you will see the different bagdad breeds.These birds were developed in different countries,along different lines by many different breeders .Some of these birds look like homers while others will take on a different look. The CZECH BAGDAD looks very homer like as do others, however there others like the BAGDAD OF NUREMBERG (SCANDAROON) and the FRENCH BAGDAD that at best look like a poor homer types.. These Bagdads are rare in the USA and not many are seen at shows. How ever they do have a look about them that makes them intresting to those that breed them., as I said in my first post here I would like to see them in a picture where they are not being held and where we could see the whole body. For the most part these birds are a new comer to the USA, as many arrived here in the late fiftys. GEORGEThe first one looks like a young homer to me, and the second could be as well.
Hi BECKY,Well I checked my rare breeds club listing and could find only one breeder of BAGDADs and he breeds Syrian Bagdad. My guess is that there no more then 10 breeders in the whole country if that many.The Syrian is a large bird about 23 ounces, for the most part Bagdads are homer size and larger. They were used in thousends of years ago in Turkey,Persia.and Arabia as message carriers.I realy think that they are an intresting bird. GEORGEI haven't heard of any Bagdad breeders in the US, which is why I went with homer (or mixes are always possible). If they are Bagdads for sure, that would be pretty neat.
Hi BILL. Yes he is in my encyclopedia on page 75 . I have the second edition 1996 you must have the older 1965 edition GEORGEI agree that they look like Bagdads. There is also a Czech Bagdad that is not in the encyclopedia and is probably the more common of the types in the US. None would be common but they are the most likely, I think.
Immigration to this country with the breakup of the USSR and all that goes on in the middle east has brought many exotic people and their exotic pigeons as well. Many are totally new to us in the last maybe 30 years or so.
When I go to pigeon swaps in my area, especially nearer to Chicago, the foreign breeders outnumber the American ones and I see many breeds of pigeons that I've never heard of before.