[fresnobirdman]

what is this bird?
is it a racer? or is it a dragoon?

i was told that it is a racer but since i been looking at dragoon pictures i have been convinced that they are dragoons,

pleas tell me what you think.
thanks ahead.

 

[Columba livia!]

?? I wouldn't know, but others on this site would. a picture of the whole bird might help.

 

[fresnobirdman]

the birds quite small compared to its mate.
its about a large roller size.

 

[fresnobirdman]

any help would be appreciated here?

 

[kalapati08]

yes that looks like a nice racer to me.

 

[RodSD]

An old racer to me. Dragoons has almost symmetrical beak. That bird doesn't have that. Nice find.

 

[fresnobirdman]

thanks guys,

what about this one?
is it a dragoon or a racer?

 

[dovelove<3]

what is the crusty looking stuff?? is that supposed to be there?

 

[fresnobirdman]

yea, i think that the crusty stuffs suppose to be there,
its part of the nose.

 

[dovelove<3]

ooo!!

 

[MaryOfExeter]

The crusty stuff is just part of the cere. It grows with age on most racers. So far, both birds you've posted are racers

 

[spirit wings]

some breeds and homers have bigger wattles or ceres, could be a trenton family of homers as Ive seen they have bigger wattles or ceres, also older homers have bigger flesh around the eye and funky wattles too.

 

[fresnobirdman]

thanks guys!

i was starting to think wrong about theses racers.

hope they give me some fast youngs cause i paid a lot of them!lol

 

[RodSD]

An old racer on the last one, too. Can you provide body pictures? These are old birds. I suppose they are older than 3 years or even 5 years.