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Well, my loft permit was rejected. That means no loft for me and that means my husband wants the pigeons out of our downstairs bathroom!

That said...

I have 5 white homers.

1 '07 Pair-They look very nice and their offspring is very nice too.

2 '08 Hens-The one is VERY broody and will steal the fake eggs and sit on as many as she can. She would make an EXCELLENT foster mom.

1 '09 Squeaker-From February. She's so sweet and I think it's a hen.

All my birds are kept inside, so no exposure to disease. They are semi-tame and are BANDED with AU bands.

I also have 19 AU 2009 bands for sale. I will give them to whoever gets my homers if you want them. Otherwise, they will be $2.00 for the bunch and you pay shipping.

I would rather not ship my birds. I would meet you if it's a reasonable drive. I only have one requirement. You MUST show me pictures of your loft and you MUST have a loft. I reserve the right to refuse my birds to anyone who seems unfit or unable to care for birds properly.
 

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I'm sorry you can't keep them. I'm in the process of relocating all my birds, with the exception of 5, for exactly the same reason.
Stick to your guns about your requirements because you are the only advocate your birds have.
 

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Thank you. Yes, I did stick to my guns! In fact, I did well enough to get asked to do an interview with the local paper! Isn't that neat? I hope this will open some doors. I intent to pursue a public pigeon education day sometime soon too. All the local clubs have said that they will help. I think it could be very fun.
 

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why was your permit refused?

Very sorry to hear your permit was refused. Not knowing your situation I still wonder why it was refused. A lot of bylaws are only enforced when or if complaints are made by neighbors. In my case I kept my loft under the minimum sqft requiring a building permit so I did not have to involve the city.

Perhaps if you share some of the information surrounding your situation others here might be able to provide you with some suggestions for fighting the bylaws your faced with.

just a thought!
 

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I still don't get this. If it is now legal to have pigeons in your area, then I suppose the loft that you build must pass inspection. If it pass inspection, then they will give you permit to keep pigeons, right?

I think in England that is what happens. They even have certain size requirements and distance from the house.

Can you clarify what is going on? Is it the pigeon itself the problem or the building loft. I think not all buildings pass inspection and so they must be redone. You have put too much effort on this already, why give up now? So the solution is to build a loft that is up to the standard of what they want.
 

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I still don't get this. If it is now legal to have pigeons in your area, then I suppose the loft that you build must pass inspection. If it pass inspection, then they will give you permit to keep pigeons, right?

I think in England that is what happens. They even have certain size requirements and distance from the house.

Can you clarify what is going on? Is it the pigeon itself the problem or the building loft. I think not all buildings pass inspection and so they must be redone. You have put too much effort on this already, why give up now? So the solution is to build a loft that is up to the standard of what they want.
I had pigeon's in England. It was very clear. Do not intrude into your neighbour's yard and do not dispute your neighbour's area.
This may sound silly,but imagine them putting a pig next to your house. That's how most people feel.
 

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I've gone through all the right avenues. I even got pigeons legal in the first place. That was my pushy self that got that done! :D In the end it was my neighbors. In my city they now leave it up to the neighbors within 75. They send out notices and then wait for 2 weeks to see if there are complains or objections. Out of the 11 neighbors, 6 complained. None of our close neighbors, except one. All the rest were just BARELY within the 75ft radius. As it is now, I've done all I can do. The reason I did it going down all the right paths was not for myself. It was for those that followed. I only had 5 pigeons, so I had virtually nothing to loose. However, I knew there were others who were doing regular sized lofts in secret. I figured they would never come forward and risk loosing their lofts, so I did it. I stepped out and straight up ASKED for a loft permit.

The council hinted that if I was to ask for a permit for less pigeons that I would be accepted, but I figured less then 50 pigeons wasn't really worth it. I wanted a decent size loft.

I can still have 2 pigeons legally without a permit, so I may end up with a couple of fancies. You never know...

I'm trying really hard to have a good attitude about this. Really I am!
 

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I actually have a buyer for the pigeons. He used to be into pigeons years ago. He's got the loft sitting in his backyard empty and ready for pigeons. I plan to give the bands and extra stuff with the birds just to encourage him to start right. He sounds like he'll give them a good home. :)
 

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I actually have a buyer for the pigeons. He used to be into pigeons years ago. He's got the loft sitting in his backyard empty and ready for pigeons. I plan to give the bands and extra stuff with the birds just to encourage him to start right. He sounds like he'll give them a good home. :)
What a crock of ****!.:(....sorry to hear it..... glad you found a place for your birds:)....now did he get a permit??????:rolleyes:
 

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What a crock of ****!.:(....sorry to hear it..... glad you found a place for your birds:)....now did he get a permit??????:rolleyes:
I'm also curious to know....
 

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This guy that's taking them lives way out in the country. No permits required if you don't live in a neighborhood.
 

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We picked this neighborhood for my husband's job. He's an auditor and this neighborhood is the most central for driving to the different locations. He just got out of college and this job is one he needs to keep for at least one more year just so it shows up on his resume. He works for Ernst & Young, which is a big deal. Anyways, now he's applying to do his PHD in accounting. That is a 4 yr long process. When that is over he will make the BIG bucks and we can move WHEREVER we want. Literally!! Any country or any state! So at that point we'll get ourselves into a better location. For now we just stick it out. :(
 

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I'm so sorry to hear your application got turned down Moonshadow. I know how long you've been working on having pigeons legally and working through the bureaucracy to have a legal loft. AND I applaude you for making such an effort to be so positive about the results. I'm sure that has alot to do with getting the coverage in the newspaper. Sounds like your a perfect person to do a pigeon education drive/campaign :)

I'm also glad you were able to find a good home for your birds... it's difficult letting them go - but you are putting their best interests first which is wonderful!

Keep us posted on the campaign - and if there's anything we can do to help you (such as pictures, stories, testimonials, etc.).
 
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