any one know

 

come on people 113 views and no one know

 

I think you have a lot of us curious who are learning genetics that just don't know. I'm watching to see answers

 

Looks like 'flash grizzle' a non sex-linked recessive gene. The grizzling appears to be more pronounced in the presence of pied genes. (References Axel Sell and Paul Gibson).

 

Part of the problem with not getting more replies, is that "tail patterns" are generally not named. In pigeon genetics, pattern names are generally used to describe the bird and specifically the pattern on the wing shield. Because your birds are predominantly white, a genetic factor such as one or more of the "pied" genes covers up the true pattern on the wing shields and therefore, the patterns cannot be seen or identified. That is why on genetic websites, it is often suggested to mate a bird with unknown or unidentifiable genetic factors with a blue-bar. The theory being that many of the genetic factors will be revealed in the offspring when mated to a bird without a bunch of complicating modifying factors itself.

Jim

 

thanks for the reply's guys

 

Jim

if i understood correctly, there is no such thing as tail patterns names

 

Correct. The one possible exception that I am aware of is "Ribbontail" which I think is a term sometimes used to describe a tail with a white subterminal band. Normally the band is black in blue pigeons, brown in brown and dilute blues and absent or nearly so in Ash Red birds.

Jim

 

interesting they should start making names for tail pattern
because all my pigeons have only colored tails it would be
nice to have names for all of them

 

What color/pattern is this

Hi all I got some new pigeons and am wondering what color and pattern they are
Thanks ahead to all replies

 

Almost looks Qualmond(?)

 

Looks like Spread blue qualmond; if a cock, heterozygous qualmond,

 

I have a male and a female

 

Ok so if there qualmond how can I get more qualmond off springs out of them
Because they have been paired up for a year and I have got nothing from them
they only make a nest and that's it no eggs at all

 

I have no clue, but someone will answer that I am sure. They are Beautiful!

 

Are you sure it is cock and hen?? If so is the hen old? If a hen and not old there could be another reason she is infertile......happens sometims with all creatures. However, I would make sure diet is good and varied and includes grit and clean water and sunshine. Give them a round of eggs to sit and foster (may get her cycle back on sync). If later she still won't lay switch them to different mates. You can pair the cock with a black or blue and still get some qualmond young from him.

 

They are male and female 100% they are both 2013 they get all the sun an clean water and ect that they need what do you think I will get if I pair him up with one of this

 

Or this one

 

you state that you just got them so how do you know are you takeing the word of the seller do you have other birds in there with them they should be in a moult maybe not laying

 

I didn't exactly just get them I got the 3-4 months ago but there still new to me
I know because I got three more pairs with them and the others already had eggs twice

 

you got two males

 

Two males of the same color or

 

Males do NOT normally Pair up like hens do..... In Fact I have NEVER had it happen in 50 Years.

 

males will pair up make really good fosters as you can put eggs in there nests any time and they will accept them and incubate if you buy a small group of birds from a dealer and they are not honest you often will end up with more males than pairs so if you have had the birds awhile this could be a couple other things something gets eggs before you see them are they 2014 birds banded with 2013 bands so many possiblitys but my first guess two males paired you have no hens

 

They are 100% not to males there are not banded but there 2013